This is an entertainment poker site. You might also proclaim it’s an amateur teaching site but nothing compared to in person cash games.
Hi Jonahh my mother says i am lucky and I believe her. In my notes I have gets lucky or gets the river or he or she is always lucky. My notes say many other positive things that are useful too nice question.
When one contemplates the luck on many hands, one could begin to question life itself , or the possible mindset of those who rely solely on luck. That is above my pay grade. Luck exists just the same as poor players that rely on luck. Live with it. It exists.
I absolutely believe that some people are just born lucky but I also do not agree poor players rely on luck. Even seasoned professional Poker players rely on luck sometimes and they are NOT poor players. At a high skill level you can just feel it coming your way.
Luck is purely that, it will come to all at some time. I believe the key is to play the cards dealt to you the best as you can, learn from mistakes and play them better next time. I can’t control my luck, but with patience and discipline, I can improve my skill of playing the cards dealt to me.
You said it, we all will have luck…I honestly believe patience is the most important thing in poker…Going on tilt happens to the best (and worse) of us but keeping that from happening will help us all play better.
Been playing here several years now. Generally, I give a table ten hands or so, then evaluate my progress or lack thereof. No wins, on to another table. Some nights it’s like getting skunked on a fishing trip, but other nights I switch to another table and the fish are biting like crazy. So, if all you do is sit at one table for a lengthy period and you don’t win, you may want to change up your strategy and try new tables until that “luck” turns.
‘Luck’ isn’t a thing with regards to a force that acts in favour of one person over another. At least not when it comes to chance based games. There are studies that show that people who consider themselves lucky are more observant and optimistic than people who consider themselves unlucky. They find money in the street or are generally upbeat about their chance of getting a job because they have good self-esteem. The ‘unlucky’ ones seemed to have a perspective on life that meant they were closed off to opportunities, less confident and less observant. (I’ll find a link to one of the studies if anyone is interested). But that isn’t actual luck - that’s your approach to life, opportunities and your general attitude.
When it comes to chance-based games like the lottery - truly random number generation - there is no one person who is ‘luckier’ than another. It’s completely random. The odds of a 5 number lottery being drawn as 1,2,3,4,5 every week are the same as any other number series because the numbers are unique for each draw. Gettting those balls picked out last week has absolutely no bearing on the physical balls that get picked this week. They get chucked back in the machine and there is an equal chance they get chosen again next time. It just resets. Poker is more complicated with regards to hand possibilities given the number of players, and even more so once you add the gambling side and then activity at flop/turn/river. But the chance of getting any two cards for your current table position at the time they are dealt stays the same. There is an awful lot more than chance (or 'luck of the draw") to poker. But the specific chance/luck element is calculable and doesn’t change from person to person if you’re simply talking about what cards get dealt. The same as the lottery.
I’d say someone who seems to get lucky with 100% chance games like the lottery is just one statistic on the curve that makes it what it is, and why it seems so unfair. If the odds worked out completley evenly then only one person would win a jackpot per 46,000,000 entries (or whatever the odds are in your chosen lottery). But they don’t. Sometimes nobody gets a jackpot for four weeks and then win a rollover (technically 4 jackpots). Most people plod along with occasional small wins, and then someone wins a jackpot twice, and another doesn’t even win the lowest prize despite playing twice per week for 60 years.
They are the loudest proponents that the game is rigged or a scam… But really they’re just part of the statistics.
Take age as an example. If the average lifespan of your population is 78 years old, that doesn’t mean every single person lives to 78, on the nose. It’s a statistic, not a prediction. The numbers are based on a lot of people surviving around a range of ages, but also some real outliers, like the lady that lives to 120 and a group of unfortunate kids that die at 1 year old. (Not a nice example but it’s how life works.)
So, I think ‘luck’ is a reverse-engineered concept to try to place some order onto experiences we don’t understand due to lack of data. We try to explain why things seem unfair when, in-fact, they are just the samples that make up the statistics we work from. We also tend to filter data. You hear about the success stories and tragedies. You don’t hear about the millions of people just living a contented life. It’s taken for granted but not considered in the luck equation.
How many forum posts do you read about the unfairness of it all compared to posts about how people are plodding along just fine with an average win/lose record. People don’t post that they’re doing alright, could be better, and could be worse. We hear about the outliers and see the disparity between them and make a judgement on luck based on that. But there is a huge wealth of data in between that has been wiped out that gives the full picture. And the lucky guy vs the unlucky guy? These ‘some people’? Who are these people? They’re not the same people all the time. Because they could be absolutely anybody. If they’d sat at their games 1 second later and missed that hand, they could have been on the opposite side of that situation.
I think with poker, you have to take these bad runs and sit it out if you’re starting to feel like it’s stacked against you. I think the attitude that you’re lucky and untouchable is just as ‘tilted’ as feeling like the cards are out to get you or the site is scamming you. Have a break and come back fresh. There is an element of chance rolling around but life isn’t fair. Some people work hard, some people have great skill, some people are in the right place at the right time. Sometimes it’s random.
Anyway, the question was very thought-provoking, thank you.
I don’t think I answered it… haha.
Maybe luck is unfair. Maybe it’s just statistics.
Some people are just born lucky and that’s a fact. Add skill and that’s a true winner in life
Well said.
We all make our own luck, i believe this:)
I don’t. I would like to but the reality of it is we become successful through hard work and some people just have all the luck etc, gambling wins, lottery wins, lucky at love,
I give a table ten hands or so, then evaluate my progress or lack thereof. No wins, on to another table. Some nights it’s like getting skunked on a fishing trip, but other nights I switch to another table and the fish are biting like crazy
Never want to be skunked fishing either and agree with you’re intuition. Time to move on, never regret any losses and look forward to the next game
I must agree @bill8888 and I believe it is derived from very hard work & helping others, the good things we do for others will come back to us 10 fold !
While it’s true that luck is evenly distributed to all people in the long run, no one seems to realistically consider just how “ long” the “long run” is (lol).
If you take only what you have observed in your lifetime, then you would tend to believe that luck isn’t fair, having witnessed lucky people and unlucky people….this would be an erroneous assumption simply because you haven’t had a large enough sample. In other words, you haven’t been around long enough to witness the ‘long run’. You have only witnessed ‘short term’.
As for poker, skill levels aside, you will always be playing with the ‘survivors’, and luck plays a major role in that. The unlucky poker players either run out of bankroll or decide poker isn’t for them and the lucky players remain or survive. The survivors are who you face at the tables. Imho
You are right on target. I have seen lucky players at casinos. I myself was at golden nugget 6 years ago playing at a table of 6. We were playing
2-4 limit. After about 25 minutes I got King-Ten of hearts, the flop came
and it was Ace, Jack, Queen of hearts…I had flopped a Royal. Yes I won
pot and poker manager came over and paid me $200 for hitting Royal.
Luck??? You bet it was…it was just fate and how they flopped…
You make your own luck by being a good person, working hard, playing poker the right way lol, finding a good wife (or husband) and OF COURSE luck helps in all of these, but you can help make your luck better (with good judgement in life). My thoughts, i been very lucky most of my life and i know the person upstairs has helped:).
Only $200.00:) Congratulations
That’s exactly what I said Bill. With the exception of being born lucky as some people are. It takes a lucky person to live after being shot multiple times . I’m consider myself being lucky by the grace of God.
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