The fairness debate

how can u say this is a fair game tell me ,as i am puzzeled like many players how can pocket aces get beat with pocket kings all in and alway kings hits the river theres so many hands them same u say its been tested but i think like many plauers this aint fair i know its a free site and for play chips but the odds everytime with theses hands r so unreal, can u mrreplay please explain many thanxs

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pocket aces got aprox 12% win rate preflop. This is playmoney, free chips, users call more often then real money game. Thets why. More call-s, less chance with pocket AA. :slight_smile:

I think RP want it to make the game more realistic, so, if you got any idea to elp thet, please share it.

tx

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What players fail to take into account at RP is the number of hands played per hour will be considerably more than at a real table. Cards at a real table must be gathered and shuffled even with a two deck system mistakes are made and must be sorted out (dropped cards and shown cards). Oh, don’t forget the arguments about whether cards were mucked or not, was that a chain bet or not, did the chips stated match what was presented, and don’t forget the argument about a check raise. All these slow a regular game down. RP just continues on regardless. I would estimate at least 3 times more hands per hour. I content because of this increased number of hands played a false perception of a flawed system is perceived.

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What players fail to take into account at RP is the number of hands played per hour will be considerably more than at a real table. Cards at a real table must be gathered and shuffled even with a two deck system mistakes are made and must be sorted out (dropped cards and shown cards). Oh, don’t forget the arguments about whether cards were mucked or not, was that a chain bet or not, did the chips stated match what was presented, and don’t forget the argument about a check raise. All these slow a regular game down. RP just continues on regardless. I would estimate at least 3 times more hands per hour. I content because of this increased number of hands played a false perception of a flawed system is perceived.

ok lets have a bad beat table as ppl think its an unfair game

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yes indeed i TOTALY AGREE with trav

I found this relevant article on the PaddyPower website, it’s worth reproducing here:

Why do I sometimes see very strange events or strings of bad luck at the table?

There are numerous reasons why the deal will sometimes not appear to be random:

Firstly, playing online you will be dealt far more hands than in a casino – (approximately 55 – 75 hands per hour online vs. 25 in a casino).

Secondly, a few hundred hands or even a couple of thousand, do NOT represent a meaningful sampling of hands, at least 30–40 thousand hands are required to begin to form a meaningful sample.

Also, we tend to NOTICE strange events far more than normal events, for instance, when we lose two tough hands in a short period with KK or AA, we feel that this is very improbable. However, we tend not to notice when our 67 beats KK and our 44 beats AA – In other words we attribute greater significance to events that are against us and tend not to notice when we are the beneficiaries of the same luck in our favor.

Players online tend to play far more hands, which means often there are more players seeing the flop and players stay in hands online longer, this all results in many more bad beats for the favored hand – because there are more players drawing against the best hand.

A concrete example of the above is … In Holdem, AA against a random hand might be a 65 % favorite, against 2 hands, a 60 % favorite against 3 hands about 50 % and so on. The more hands drawing against you and the longer they stay in the hand, the more likely the best hand will lose.

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many txs for ur answer paul i would like to see that please

I would like to see players like yourself and Trav90210, learn how to play a little more, and WHINE a little less. Everyone gets bad beats, out flopped, even pushed in/out, not you guys. You think AK should win all the time but what you fail to realize is there are 7 cards in the other guys hand to make one…Stop being sissy and learn how to play, all in is not the way…P.S. I give free lessons…

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http://www.gamingassociates.com/CertSystem/Domain/ShowPayouts.aspx

psst, Im tend to thet guy, who see 6 pp go all in preflop, soo , I think, hm , they must be all got high cards… so I call with 56 off suited. lol . and win.

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masner if ur so good why u playing on a free site for chips,if ur such apro why dont u playcash or be quite if u got nothing better to say then give boring comments everytime please feel free 2 play me one on one any time u may learn who is the greatest for thses free play chips its a game to have fun and relax so ur comments dont really bother me over fake chips

hey trav this masner such a pro think its time we listen to him hahahahahhahahahahahahahah

no pro here, just tired of cyber tuff guys that talk out of their neck as well as whine becuase they lose, so-watch your mouth and you can chat, and trav I have a tissue if you need it CRYBABY Learn how to adjust, not try to make everyone cater to the girls…

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i dont need a tissue.

i could careless about fake chips.

point is these hands are unreal. the cards are predictable

i just come to terms its a free site ppl going play and call whatever course get lucky

in real live poker ppl see 2 7, 2 8, 2 9, 3 9, junk hands like that they fold in a heartbeat

masner you need to listen to what you preach above you said all in is not the way to go but i saw your hand in tourney went all in on AA and lost

such a hypocrite

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if the cards predictable, why I dont see you on the top list?

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  1. i dont play much tournaments like some ppl do

  2. i dont care about the toplists like some ppl do

  3. as far predicting cards mean like if flop ace high straight. 2 suited cards on table turn or river will be the other suited card and person hits the flush. i dont know how many times i said river be diamond or whatever give someone flush. sure enough river diamond or whatever they need complete flush

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http://support.replaypoker.com/replaypoker/topics/poker_hand_rankings_statistic

1 question and 1 easy answer here its all playchips and only top 10 players lover there playchips other ppl here to enjoy and relax and playpoker not all in on rubbish hands

I have the same problem, same two cards over and over