And they get NO points, your beef is it costs you points potentially.
Yet has little impact on any monthly/yearly MTT LB. ( best 7 weekly, perhaps )
We have that here Jazz, its the level 3 rule…
I have tried this here on replay, enter a tourn… if for some reason I’m allowed to win my BB so be it, but I have folded every other hand. I did not even get close to the final table, but I did place in the top 40% for t-pts. Never play’d 1 hand. I haven’t tried it in a 9ppl SnG yet, but I suspect it might get close to cashing. This was done alot on the micro $$$ 9 ppl SnG tables @ FullTilt. and you had to find ways around it, so these ppl didn’t “cash”. (legally)
I can say this when you have 4 ppl left, 1 sitt’n out… the other 3 aren’t too hip on letting that person cash, especially if its for actuall $$$… even for t-pts here, ppl will be ruthless about gett’n them out… Yet it boils down to the fact they paid for thier chips, who are you to say how they can use them.
SPG was specifically talking about 1 player folding every hand… versus… that same player being auto-folded outta every hand… there is no difference. I’ve even seen newer players giving a walk to a grey’d out person, and laughing my A off …
Yes @jazzbythebay , @Maya … it bugs me too, especially early on when you play 4 handed instead of 6 handed … or when chipleader is “right” of the grey person and scoops most of his BB cause noone wants to attack him… Even when the grey person makes the final table, and I get 10th place, I want him gone instead of me… but then I think about it… I shudda play’d 1-2 hands better not to be in this boat… or I shudda wasted more time so I still outlasted him… and ohh yeah, he won those chips to get here, he deserves it perhaps…
Whenever I see topics that are close to evenly split “opinion wise” , I take a step back… and look @ it from both sides… more often than not, the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, or the one … even if that means it goes against my opinion. I think its completely illogical in NASCAR for 42 cars to be on the track, yet only 12/8/4 are fighting for the Cup… why not just have those 12/8/4 racing ???
@Maya , if you are that concerned about every last t-point , wouldn’t you also award points after the MTT, so the player that busts out, before the lvl 3 sitouts are removed, gets credit for placing higher up… once they are removed and get 0 pts as if they had never played ??? not only that, but awarding t-pts after also fix’s the fact late registration does skew t-pts for those who might go out in the 1st few hands on a extreme bad beat… because the calc is based on # runners, and only after late registration ends are the total # runners are finalized… what about “hand 4 hand”.
I am trying to point out things that others might not have thought about, “food for thought” , “things that make ya go hmmmmm”… What happens if they ammend the rule, and somehow you still get hosed because the blinds take you out 1 hand before the ammended rule kicks in and boots the person… do we then ammend the rule yet again ?? …
Whether its bubbletime, or a final table, the object is to stay above the bubble/last spot… its frustrating when a grey person is higher up the food chain, but that just means you prolly play’d 1 too many hands you shouldn’t have earlier. Is it any different, if that “transfer spot person” is just folding every hand, and chatt’n up a storm, and you know they can outlast you “blinds wise” ??? Or when the ChipLeader suddenly goes silent and now all of a sudden the 3 short stacks have to attack each other, rather than hoping the ChipLeader does it for them ???
As a few have said, there are many reasons why a grey person is grey, most of them are not nefarious in design, the current rule takes that into account. I think the hardest thing I have had to battle while playing poker, was my emotions. lett’n things out of my control adversely effect my gameplay. Time-wasters, Bingo-players, Grey ppl, Late reg, bullies, button pushers … ALL of IT , let it get under your skin and your finished. You cannot play good poker “scared” or “angry” … you just can’t.
Sassy