Unbeatable Board

One rare event I find amusing is the unbeatable board: a board no one can improve on no matter what their hole cards are:

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Any set of quads on the board with an ace (or 4 aces with a king) is another example of such a board (assuming no straight flush is possible).

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I’ve jammed boards like that and got folds, which kinda cracks me up. :slight_smile:

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LOL… in the game I took the screen shot from someone jammed on this board also (though thankfully got no folds).

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That’s the optimal strategy in tournaments, but would you also do it in ring games with rake (assuming the rake cap hasn’t been hit yet)?

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Not if the cap hasn’t been met, no.

But people do that all the time too, especially in hi/lo. They bet obvious chops and sometimes when there’s a great chance they are gonna get quartered. Maybe it’s a form of tipping?

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:joy:

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Err, I thought I should tease the chap that made this post… LOL. It didn’t occur to me as I added that thought (the part in parenthesis above) that a straight flush will never be possible with 4 of a kind on the board, since by definition the quads will only contain one of each suit, creating a board where no flushes of any kind are possible.

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I was waiting for a retraction :joy:

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On the fly and in the excitement of the moment, I wonder if sometimes people fold because they’re afraid the pot will be split and they’ll come out with less than they put in. (Or is this math tripping me up again?)

If playing a game like Omaha hi/lo, it is possible to get out less than you put in. This can happen when you get quartered by losing high and chopping low, for example.

I don’t think this is possible in Holdem, however. So yes, the math seems to be tripping you up. :slight_smile:

I suspect that people fold because they can’t quickly figure out the “nuts” in a situation, and so think there may be a way they can lose the hand outright.

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There are some cases, I think, when all things are equal in the community cards but one of the players gets the pot because of a higher kicker. And then other cases when the split is equal regardless of kickers. Or was that a bad dream I had once? (It’s not just math that confuses me. Reality/dream states trip me up too.)

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I think the OP was talking about cases where the stone cold nuts are on the board, so hole cards don’t enter into the picture.

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If both players use all 5 of the community cards as their best hand. It will be a chop no matter what their kickers are

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I would definitely go all in here hoping my opponent(s) might fold. Nothing to lose, only something to gain by doing this.

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I actually had that exact hand (royal of clubs) on the board for a hand of Omaha. Made for a very interesting hand since, of course, you can’t play the board in Omaha. It became who had the best club flush–3 on the board, 2 in the hand.

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lets see you do it in REAL MONEY games

If the best possible hand is on the board, you literally can’t lose unless you fold, so yes, I would and have done it in real money tournaments.

The only argument against doing it in a real money setting (and this would be in a cash game rather than a tournament), is that you don’t want to increase the rake if it is not already capped.

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Of course your opponent calls your shove then shows you this

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I don’t know about folding with the Board showing a Royal Flush because if you’re still in the hand, most likely you’ve already called enough of your stack to compensate for your portion of any rake take out reduction.

I would definitely call if one or more folds after the River all-in.