Flop Top Pair. Just fold. Come on man, you know you’re not any good here. Just take the hint that someone called you preflop and get out while you can.
You get AA in the BB and figure OK I’ll raise pot and see who comes along. In the entire table 2 people limp, not even raise.
One player has absolutely no trouble calling your shove on the next hand when you have 53, with their 52, but it doesn’t matter because someone else calls with A6 and makes a pair of Aces. You just can’t throw away $100k fast enough. If you hurry you can finish your week down a million chips. Because it’s fun to do the things you’re good at, and what you’re good at is finding every single murphy’s law hand there is and getting the smallest pots for the best hands that don’t get bet by coolers, getting rags for a solid half hour after you win half the chips in the first part of the game so you can bleed out in 5th place after an hour and 12 minutes, and watching your painted hands miss every board and your OESD flopss miss.
Mate, so many posts, can’t follow it lol o_O
But do you want people to analyze them, or not?
I don’t care, it’s just a thread for me to vent. When you get beat like this all week, I tend to lose my mind a bit. Last week, when I won chips in 50% of the games I played, it felt like moving to high stakes had solved my problem of being beaten by improbable bad play, and for the most part I still think that part is happening less, but I can see now that the random number generator is sentient and hates me, and is just torturing me the more I play.
- I take a windfall in an early hand and then can’t use the Big Stack advantage for the next 45 minutes as the best card I see is a 7. I bleed down to a desperation shove situation and the field hasn’t even narrowed down to the bubble yet, then I’m out. Getting one playable hand per hour is terrible.
- I get great cards, maybe even hit a perfect flop, and still get beat somehow, such as the flopped Broadway killed by flush hand, or the KK under AAAA hand. Even my premium and nut hands are no good.
- I get AA, and the entire table decides this is a hand they won’t play. One limps, then the SB limps, and I know that if I raise here, they’ll just fold, and if I don’t raise they’ll be playing 53 and hit a straight flush on the flop with it. So I give up and just shove it hoping that someone will think I’m an idiot bluffing and call me, of course they don’t.
- Pretty much every time I have a hand the table knows somehow, and I can’t get them to play past a flop, and I win tiny jackpots. I’d raise more preflop, but any time I miss the flop, no one ever lays down, so bluffing doesn’t work enough to be profitable. So then I take to limping my opening range, because 90% missing the flop, I can’t afford raises, but that’s when I hit a monster, and when everyone else is check-foldin to the river so my best hands win jack squat, and I pay out the max any time I have good cards that miss or flop a nutty draw that will never ever come.
- Any time I’m a big stack and there’s a short stack going all in, whatever they’re holding is 80% to hit trips or better, while i will miss the board completely.
- At some point I lose my mind and it just seems funny to lose every time no matter what so I just give up and throw my chips away on obviously bad situations that initially looked promising, because that seems to be what the table is wants. Why fight prolonged agonizing death when you can head first dive into the wood chipper and end it quick?
What can hand analysis do to save me from this? Nothing. When I play good and get cards, people say I’m a great player. But why is it that I must endure such droughts so very frequently?
If I didn’t document this, people would say I’m exaggerating, that it can’t be that bad, i have a selective memory and a negative attitude. But I don’t. This is really happening. The cards hate me for 2, 3 weeks at a time, but I battle through it and struggle to break even and to come back from horrendous slides where I lose half a million. Then I have a week, or more recently a day or even just two games back to back where I am able to win by a combination of making absolutely zero mistakes AND getting unbelievably good cards for an entire game and hitting flops 80% of the time with them.
But it’s getting to where it’s not fun anymore. I know I’ve improved as a player very much over the last year, but the results are still as inconsistent as ever, and there’s no end in sight to it.
More of the same, today as ever.
I join a MTT 5 min into late reg. I don’t get cards the first two tables because I’m seated in small blinds. My first three hands, I see nothing higher than a 7. Then I’m dealt 33, and limp from early position. A player in late position goes all-in. The open goes from 40 straight to all in.
Now when I played my AA last night that way, of course the table folded. Here, though, they get two calls.
They have KK. I don’t begrudge them raising KK, not even shoving it. You know the low-stakes idiots here are going to call at least 2/3 of the time, and it’s worth it.
But I would have had a set, full house, and won the hand if I’d called. Is 33 a good calling hand vs KK? No. Did I save a bunch of chips? Also no. Did I save a bunch of chips in the long run? Arguably not.
Now I’m getting paint-rag hands like J3, Q8, and not playing them.
Know what would save me even more chips in the long run? Not buying in and sitting at any table.
Here I go with 88, in the BB. UTG raises 3BB, me and the SB call. I raise after a player holding K6 bets the turn when a 6 hits and there’s no overcards. They call and I go all-in on the river, and they still just call me with 66K, and I double up. I actually took advantage of someone, wow. This is the best hand I’ve had in the last 24 hours.
For my next hand, I get KK, and can only manage to chop it with KQ, on a 9-K straight. Fantastic job, Kings, thanks.
I get AQs, raise it, some knob tries to shove me off of it with Q5, and I really considered giving them the hand, but I’m fatalistic enough to call at this point. I end up taking the hand with Pair of 4s, Ace kicker. Suddenly I’m 5th/32 on the leaderboard. Maybe I’ll enjoy a game today?
Maybe you can get away from these running bad periods, or just coolers or bad beats… Anyway, we all want to get better right ?
Not sure how I can get away from them… I mean, once the cards are dealt, that’s pretty much it.
I could always try walking away from the game after three bad games in a row and shutting down until the next day or week.
Here’s my morning MTT run ruined by a cooler, flopped flush checks to the river, then shoves, right when I make trip Tens, A kicker.
I drop from like 3rd to 12th/23 in one hand like a complete idiot calling because I assume he has a Ten and I have a better kicker. Heedless of the obvious flush from the flop, and the fact that ATTT here is vulnerable to any T making a second pair for a full house. Great call, huh?
I guess I’m ready to throw myself off a bridge now.
Some more BS
74 could have had a straight but you can’t ever play 74.
Weak suited Ace limps flops a flush draw, but the board has two pair by the Turn and the flush never fills; even if it did I could safely assume anyone on a 6 or 7 has the boat to beat me.
Bet middle pair like it’s top pair, get called, check the turn, opponent checks back, try betting again on the river, they call and DON’T have it?!?! What a weirdly misplayed hand by @ROTTWEILER.
Don’t get me wrong, but this certainly isn’t a snap call. I have to admit that this whole hand just doesn’t make sense, but a n y w a y … There is a flush draw, straight draw, what does he shove with? Do you know if this guy is a complete fish ? If not, it just seems like a donk-value shove, but difficult to analyze all of this in a few seconds anyway. The river just sucks for you, it’s true, but argh, I think you can just lay it down? Is he really gonna bluff-shove here to win some small unimportant pot ?
Dude, keep cool, get some fresh juice or something, look out of your window, and be happy that you’re on such a great free poker site. Enjoy it, don’t get mad, it’s bad for you, for your game, for everything.
I’m here with basically 0 chips ; I gave up to be honest ; I wish there was some kind of way to get at 10 million immediately, or higher as I can see (), to play some serious games. I’m not patient enough to use a decent bankroll management to play against total donks. There’s worse than you man.
All I can tell you, is go play some 200k buy-in cash game, do not only play SNG’s, you’ll enjoy it, it’s different, but cool in its own way…
Good luck, be careful though, gamblers are still there in cash game …
Right, I could and should have just laid the hand down. He quietly held on to his flush until the end, and I fell for it. It was a great play by him. The fact that the read didn’t make sense was what gave me the notion that I could call here with trips and take it.
I’m still in this game, currently sitting at 8th/18, so not doing horrible, but I’m pretty annoyed that I made that call and dropped down to the middle of the field where all I can do is hang on and try to survive the bubble.
Fold, fold fold, through the midgame, looking for a hand that I can shove. I get TT in the BB, and plan to take a chance on it, and the entire table folds to me, I get the blinds and antes.
Out 11th after folding 99 on the flop and shoving 33. Small stack calls me, but has me covered, hits his Q on the flop and that’s it. I don’t ever expect to win with 33 preflop, certainly not facing a raise, but it just seemed like I was only going to get rag pocket pairs for the rest of the game and I might as well try to play them. When I’m playing like this, I don’t really want to win, I just want to get enraged when I don’t win.
Can’t afford to fold, ridiculous outcome…
That hand is at least understandable in that you’re forced to play due to the blinds. If that was at the opening blind level and you lead with that size bet, or raised someone on KK raising to 10BB (300 chips) then it would be ridiculous. I hope you went on to win that game.
The ridiculous thing was 57o hitting the gutshot on the turn to beat AQ and KK. I had to play pretty much any 2 cards, but still.
And no, I didn’t go on to win. I finished 8th of 95.
2nd night at the Foals league. More of the same.
https://www.replaypoker.com/hand/replay/512352561 - 2nd hand of the game, I play JT, hit a Full house, with it, and manage to win nearly 1000 chips.
Stack is over 7000
https://www.replaypoker.com/hand/replay/512352959 - J6 BB, river jacks, small pot.
https://www.replaypoker.com/hand/replay/512354287 AA vs 99, flops set of 9s disaster hand.
Stack now below 1800
https://www.replaypoker.com/hand/replay/512354444 JQ v J7 JJQQ over JJ77 double up
https://www.replaypoker.com/hand/replay/512354969 A8 over A4 AAA double up back to health.
Stack back over 6000
https://www.replaypoker.com/hand/replay/512355317 JT OESD miss
https://www.replaypoker.com/hand/replay/512355687 JJ raise and dump to ANOTHER 999 hand, this time the flop misses me and it’s 99 on the flop, the big stack bets and shows he has a 3rd 9.
https://www.replaypoker.com/hand/replay/512355889 JT wrong flush board check-fold to river, folding on the river bet
https://www.replaypoker.com/hand/replay/512356594 Q9s flop straight draw, check-call to river lose K-high over Q-high.
https://www.replaypoker.com/hand/replay/512356954 J2 (folded) flop 522. 55 wins hand, 55522. good fold.
https://www.replaypoker.com/hand/replay/512357508 A5o BB flop wrong flush, but OESD for me, fold to bet from big stack.
https://www.replaypoker.com/hand/replay/512357773 KQo raise, bet flop, but stack calls, don’t hit a pair, fold river 99 wins. %$#!& YOUR NINES.
Stack Down to 4500
Tables rebalance 5 players out now, am 21st/25 of 30
https://www.replaypoker.com/hand/replay/512358905 96o in BB, fold to a 2BB raise. Good fold. 9-K straight wins, table now has a big stack at it.
https://www.replaypoker.com/hand/replay/512359329 T6o in SB, fold, made two pair, KK wins over JJ2. Could not have played with any confidence.
https://www.replaypoker.com/hand/replay/512360037 K5s limp, flop 8AA, one spade. Fold on flop to half-pot bet from dealer.
4125 chips 20th/25/30
J8o KQ2 flop, big stack takes it on the flop shows 22.
73o fold, big stack wins from BB uncontested.
J7s in BB. flop 68J, bet pot and take it.
Stack down to 4520.
Q4s in SB. Limp. 789 flop, 1 club. Check-fold after player behind me goes all-in.
4360 chips 17th/22/30
630, fold. Big stack beats AJ with 42, hitting a pair of 2s.
https://www.replaypoker.com/hand/replay/512365833 K5s, flop 8AA, fold on the flop to a half-pot bet.
Q9s, UTG+1, limp. Next player shoves. %$#!& you.
4100 chips, 18th/22/30
A4o, fold. Flop 254, 6. 4 hearts. Hand ends on the turn. Maybe could have played here. Big stack takes it says he had 66, so would have been on a set.
A8o in BB, a player raises from 330 to 1320. Fold. %$#!& you.
K2o, in SB, fold. AJ goes all in, called by AJ, they hit AAJJ, chop.
3570 chips, 18th/22/30
T8o, fold. Flop 788. @$@#(^&^*&^! Player bets half pot against the big stack, who folds. No idea if they had trips or what. Maybe they would have beaten me with J+8 or something.
- Limp. K4K flop. 7 Turn. No action. 3 river. Fives are good, I take 1440.
Stack 4650, 17th/21/30
A6o, fold. TKT, 3, player minbets the turn and takes the hand.
T8o, fold. Flop T9J, for Tens + OESD, hit Q on the turn. %$#!&. 22 vs Q6, wins it.
K8o fold. 5J3, 6. Big stack wins on a 3-7 straight.
K2o in BB, whole table limps. 455 flop. Player behind me bets pot. Fold.
3880 chips, 16th/21/30
https://www.replaypoker.com/hand/replay/512365833A9o in SB. Limp. I feel congratulations are in order, I managed to get to see a flop. 2AQ, I have top pair, and 3 hearts on the board. 2nd to act shoves, I can tell they have either AK or AQ, and I’m just that beyond caring at this point, so I call. They flip up AK, I’m %$#!&ed. I knew it. This whole game, most of the time now one opens, everyone limps, but the 2-3 hands that I get semi-playable cards dealt to me, someone’s shoving preflop. Probably doing me a favor keeping me from losing more chips faster. But then I manage to get in to see a flop, I even hit it, and again someone’s hyperbetting the pot, so I’m sick of it, I decide to stand up and call, and of course it’s the wrong move. I even knew it was the wrong move. If I could have raised the shove so I could have given him all my chips right then and there, I would have done it.
Stack is 1255. 21/21/30. Basement desperation garbage time, %$#!&.
https://www.replaypoker.com/hand/replay/512366970AK, I shove, 2 players call me. No one’s afraid to call here, of course. I hit top two pair, and am blasted out of the game anyway by a broadway straight to end my @#@#%y run.
I guess the lesson is, playing poker is impossible when you’re able to play 1/50 hands. Also, throwing away your chips in anger is not a great way to win.
I’ll have to work on it. But mainly I’m just super angry at the way my luck has gone. I can handle a bad beat. I can’t handle dozens of hands over a week going south on me on top of ice ages that go on for 40-50 minutes or more.
This is a win, jonmike not shoving the river and leaving you with a 2K stack is a win in my book… lol Cheers Pugs
…or pre-flop for that matter, @puggywug.
So… lots of quotes here from people all noticing the same thing… people going full r-tard if you actually play aggressive poker. I remember in a low stakes ring game, I was raising 25BB pre-flop at one point and still getting 5 or 6 callers. Once I got called a bingo player, I confronted them, then picked up my winnings and left.
After slamming my head against the wall like this for a while, changing stakes often, I switched over to 4-max & 6-max ring games per the suggestion of @Comicguy. I have to say, the level of play at those tables is substantially better than a typical full ring. Still not enough to be “good”, mind you, but infinitely more predictable and easier to make some profit. (With less wait time between hands!)
==insert witty segue==
I recommend this as well, Pug. Play a 4-max ring game at 200/400 or thereabouts for a while. You can totally play 74s on the button if everyone is weak. If you’re having a bad night on the tournament circuit, join a ring game and play a smart (but loose) 30-35% range pre-flop. It’s fun and it moves quickly.
Well, my computer was broke down for 2 days, which meant I made whole 5000 chips, actual +EV play for collecting the daily bonus.
Played Badonk’s Foals league again, and did fine, until I got AQ, flopped QQA, got bet into by AJ who had JJA for middle pair. I go all-in on the Turn, and they call me, LIKE YOU DO WITH A NUTTY-@$$ HAND LIKE 2nd PAIR. And then he proceeds to river out a trip Jack suckout bad beat to drop me off the table in 21st place. And after I had just so patiently folded junk cards for the privilege of playing this hand, too. Goodnight, I hate everyone.
Flop a broadway draw and bravely sustain a bet, calling to see the Turn, my perfect card fills the straight, and I go all-in, river sucks my opponent out to a KKKTT full house and takes me for my buy in THANKS CARDS.