Lets start with quote 2, #2 …
Hands played per hour lumps all players together as a combined piece of data, that are on that table. Thus #2 is not player specific therefore cannot be used.
While #1 tells me you want ppl to act in an ave of 4 seconds (basically).
Moving on to quote 1 …
You said lightning tables are “way too fast already”, yet have a timer of 8-10 seconds. Also reg ( 20 sec ) timer tables are “too fast” … in your opinion…
Im confused totally now, if ~4seconds is the target, that to me seems “way way way too fast” if lightning tables are “way too fast”. Also if its ok if I have a good reason to take longer, who actually decides if my reason is good or not ? You ??
Your original post was in your words, drunken ramblings… Is it possible this all sounded good on paper, but in real life not so much ? I just am dumbfounded that you say the fast timer tables are way too fast, yet you want players to play twice as fast … That just makes no sense to me.
On a side note turbo tables have nothing to do with the timers and are SnG not Rings. They have less starting chips, and faster increasing blinds, thats why they are Turbo tables. Lets not further confuse ppl, plz.
I have played on what would be considered Turbo Timer Tables. Its Tough !!
You get 3 sec timers, thats it… … Thats my limit, because thats not even enuff time for manual betting. Its use a button or fold… hahahaha.
In online Poker, there are 3 basic inputs (tells) … how/when you bet, how much you bet, and how long it takes you to bet. Knowing this, when evaluating time2bet, I had to ferret out all non player reasons for a longer time. It is true, time2bet, means something… therefore trying to take the same time every action, is a logical/rational way to bet, to mask any read from time2bet.
I’m trying to keep a str8 face when I ask, will you be able to keep a speed ranking to play on the very tables you want created ?? I mean if fast timers are “way too fast” …
This all sounds like the bingo debate… Yes I wanna be able to go all in, but noone should go all in unless they have a pretty good hand… I agree those ppl have options… PL, ML, FL, just not NL… but its trying to dictate another players actions that yet another player deems wrong… uhhhh No !!
Lets address the little things that will speed up play, and that Replay can easily give us, before we try and develop new tables that need a new rating system. There’s a darn good reason why so few players are busted for breaking the rules and playing slow. There’s too many legitimate reasons for slower play, therefore proving those few players that are actually Jerks and are doing it, is very tough.
Tell you what DogsOfwar, I’ll pump your Idea with steroids…
Public-Private tables… What do I mean by that you ask :
Public in that once created from a template, anyone can join.
Private in that you decide, from a template, … Timer limit, Buyin limits, & Blinds.
Sure, there is no ATTP rank, but you could create a faster than lightning table.
Staff would only have to come up with a approved template for tables.
But I do get it Dogs, you want 20 seconds when you need it, you just hope noone else needs it and just takes 3-5 seconds. .