Many of us, myself included enjoy the daily Freeroll Multi-Table Tournaments, but they are all No Limit. What are the chances of introducing Mixed Limit Freeroll tournaments, to cut out all the pre-flop bingo nonsense. It’s a hot topic as we all know, and it ruins the game for so many of us. A Mixed Limit option would make for a good addition to the Lobby.
It could also be beneficial to new players who wish to practice tournament play, as they won’t have to deal with constant all-inners early on in the tournament.
I get your point. And I am definitely in favor of this suggestion. There is always something like a Bankroll Builder for 1k buy-in that is a pot limit holdem game. and there is also a freeroll for new players only the @100K Replay Rookie Freeroll
I was referring to Freeroll tournaments specifically, not all Multi-Table tournaments. And I suggested adding Mixed Limit, not replacing No Limit, that way everybody has a choice to play one or the other, or both.
I would like to make an argument for bingoing early in freerolls.
I have a limited amount of time every day to play poker, and freerolls cost no chips to join.
If I don’t bingo, I spend maybe an hour playing a tournament with a starting bankroll of 3000 chips.
If I bingo with a hand that has 40% equity, and get a customer, then 40% of the time, I now have 6000 chips but if I play normally from here it still takes roughly the same amount of time to play. 60% of the time, I bust, but then can do other things with my time.
As you can see, the incentive structure clearly favors bingo play in freerolls.
For me personally, I dislike ML or FL tournaments, because proper bingoing (“snap-shoving”) is a key part of late tournaments. For instance, late in the tournament, I have 10BB, and have QQ on the SB, which is a great hand, but does not like seeing a post-flop. A few customers, and I make the max raise to 6BB. I’m already pot committed, and it’s frustrating to not be able to shove in this situation.
An alternative solution is to speed up the blind progression, to respect the time of non-bingo players. If freeroll tournaments completed a lot faster, I would have much less reason to bingo to save time.
With all due respect, that would only encourage bingo playing, not discourage it. The theory then would be "Oh it’s ok, I can just wait for the number to drop then keep going all in as I’m guaranteed a prize.
Open shoving is appropriate in some cases, but there is no reason a serious player should bingo with stack sizes 50+BB deep. (In theory, one reason: ICM pressure, but players on this site don’t seem to respect it anyways.)
4-bet shoving is not bingoing.
Shoving postflop is not bingoing.
Certainly this suggestion will not penalize people who properly bingo - at least one player will be eliminated before stack sizes become shallow enough for serious players to consider bingo.
It may penalize people who bingo with massive stack sizes. Bingoing with massive stack sizes is not an art form; it’s terrible play.
Interesting suggestions, although I don t really understand them. I very much doubt this would discourage bingo play/players. Also adding new random structures & rules to the system just seems more complicated to me.
Adding a small amount of ML Freerolls - 1 in 10 or 20 - seems like a better solution to me. The issue is how many players like, or would tolerate ML as a an occasional alternative?