I have came to realize replaypoker is more than a competitive place to play poker. This is a place where people can help each other, share good times and develop actual friendship. I came here from pokerstar, there nobody is nobody’s friend, very competitive. For example at pokerstar if someone you are playing against asks," did I make a good fold? or should I foldeded my KQ there?" you either don’t answer or give them the wrong answer." That is how it is on there. The great Doyle Brunson once said being a professional pokerplayer is a very lonely experience, what he means is you can never share your knowledge to anyone, under any circumstance. For example, you know why that man is loosing, you see him lose everyday, his going broke, you look in his eyes, he needs help, but he is a fish, and the thing professional do to fish? MILK all the meat off of it!
I have decided to change how I talk and behave on here. From now on I will be polite but reserved humor with everyone, this is also due to the fact that most of the people on here are actually older than me, unlike pokerstar more young folks. I will give good poker advice, not false. And make friends along the way.
That was very true in his day. In the digital internet age, it’s anything but true. We have computers in our pockets that can easily tell us the odds of things. We have an internet to share analysis and strategy, and if even some people are doing it, what they can learn through talking to each other will make them better players than the people who hoard their secret knowledge very quickly.
It’s analogous to the difference between cryptography prior to WWII and after. These days, the strongest cryptographic algorithms are public, open source, and vetted by the world. Well, unless there’s stronger secret ones that we don’t know about because they’re secret. What do I know.
there is always stronger ones top player keep to themselves. I had looked on the forums, to be honest most of it is really basic, nothing a brainy person can’t figure out on his own… What people including professional want are esoteric knowledge.
You could be right, and you certainly seem to be more experienced at poker than I am, so I should trust you.
My sense of it, though, is that fundamentals take you a long, long way in this game. Most people just have a problem playing good fundamental poker. You can explain the math to people, but getting them to apply it in pressure situations isn’t as easy.
The strongest players (by which, I mean professional poker players, not the top players on Replay, necessarily) are playing a deeper game, but their advanced play is predicated more on knowing their opponents than it is playing secret math. They probably also have much better focus, memory, and emotional control (certain notable exceptions notwithtanding).
I once saw a really interesting interview of Daniel “Jungleman” Cates by Doug Polk in which he explains how he’s able to still make sound poker decisions while visibly tilted (key part starts around 42 minutes in). My favorite quote is this: “Eight plus eight isn’t going to equal twenty just because I’m mad. That’s not how math works.”
The math isn’t really secret - hell, we’ve talked through a fair bit of it publicly on these forums - and even knowing your opponents isn’t nearly as much a help as you’d think. Particularly as you move up in stakes, your opponents will have fewer holes in their games and be playing closer to a GTO (Game Theory Optimal) style. Deviating from GTO yourself to exploit their weaknesses may increase your winrate against those particular opponents, but it will also expose you to potentially larger losses if you’re playing multi-way against other, GTO-type opponents.
What separates the pros from most of RP’s denizens is knowledge of this math. The vast majority of people sitting at the Replay Poker tables aren’t even aware of the statistics. If you have a backdoor flush draw and an outside straight draw, facing a half-pot bet, do you have the odds to hit your draws? How does your calculus change if your opponent often does or does not continue on the turn? Can you work that out with a calculator, a piece of paper, and a couple of minutes? Most of the people on this site can’t, which is why they lose chips chasing draws or folding to minbets.
What separates the pros at the highest level from those grinding their way through microstakes is the internalization of this math. If they can calculate these odds across their full range of hands, comparing them to the odds for their opponents’ full range of hands, then they can figure out optimal bet sizing to gain maximum value from their competitors. However, they need to do this quickly, since most time banks are not unlimited.
you are absolutely correct. most players here are not doing well because they are unable to grasp the fundamentals. You see the fundamentals of poker is hard and not hard at the same time! For example, we all know the saying," a man either gets it when it comes to women, or they don’t!"… And I think it’s like that with poker.