How would you compare the difficulty of replay buy-ins vs real money buy-ins

well, then, here is all the experience i have. i cant afford real poker, i can barely afford replay. one thing is certain. what i see in real poker like the wsop, is if you have high pockets, you string your opponent as long as you can to win as many chips, knowing that aces should hold up. in replay, i do the opposite, i go all in to get people out, because if yyou havent noticed replay has the worst river beats in the world, you want realism, i dont think its here

ty, nice example’s

yes also have got many rivered bad beats, don’t know why it is but i have it too.

but still, even if the random shuffler is bugged, players are not (unless they are bots of course :stuck_out_tongue::smile:). and because the players aren’t the odd thing, the skill of them is real and real skill is comparable.

Now that I am a part of the establishment I don’t mind telling you I have become more sensitive to all the criticism about Replay Poker. I find myself starting to create tally sheets on how often I see a player get knocked out and their last words are “Replay Poker strikes again.” No joke, I read these kinds of remarks four or five times a day, meaning many many people have been busted out and it is all Replay Poker’s fault. However, in the past three months I have NEVER seen or heard ANY player say “thanks Replay Poker for that full house that just earned me10,000 chips.” Why is that? Why don’t I hear “Atta boy Replay!” I just can’t figure that one out.

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i don’t really know to who you are referring to, but if you mean me the thing is i just recognised that it happens to me too that what he said that odd things happen with bad river beats (and also in periods (sometimes even incredible long times), but also i never think this is on purpose or something like that, i only think that it may be some kind of a bug. there are multiple reasons why i don’t think this is on purpose: 1: because you have nothing to gain by that. 2: because i really don’t think you are the kind of people who would do that, i have also been helped with questions quickly and friendly, i have been player of the month once, and some quotes i posted once have been added. in short: i do think you are good people. i really like the site and am certainly grateful it exists, and i am using the site often too (which i defenitely won’t if i don’t like it). so if i gave the feeling that i don’t like it, then my apologies, but its certainly a misunderstanding.

hope this helps.

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I thank what people forget this is a game replay poker we all keep coming bach to replay the game

the level of play at RP is not even close to the level of play for real live cash or tourney game. I live in california and the best poker players in the us live here. At RP I’m ranked 23, and in California I’m probably only slightly above average player

thanks replay for the cards… always get the good stuff on river… and its fun

One has to understand the difference between chips and cheques to realize there is no way to compare the two. Whey you’re in chip action, there is no consequence for an inept or stupid play.

An example might clarify. If a player holds pocket aces, the proper strategy is to eliminate the most players possible to increase your odds of winning when it’s real money. With chip action, nobody respects the bet. Put up a “hey, I’m holding power” bet of five times the BB and people fold in cheques. Doing the same in chips results in either the instant call or the “up yours buddy-boy” shove. Against one or two players, pocket aces hold a definite edge. Against five or more, it becomes a coin toss.

Chip players have no incentive to play smart. This is why they will chase to the river or draw to the inside. There is no consequence. It also explains the river kills. Against one or two players, a river kill card is tough luck. When you’re facing four or more, it’s an inevitable happening due to the increased opportunities of hitting.

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I came here in November with a few friends from another site. While I have only played a little of the ring games (to get a reasonable bankroll to play with), one of my friends has stuck almost entirely to them. We routinely watch each other play and try to help each other with our games and analyze situations and hands. Anyway, in mid November he makes a buy of 250K chips to play with and goes broke in a week. He makes a 2nd buy, makes some adjustments to his bankroll management and now has over 11 million chips as of today.

Now this guy is about as dangerous a player as you are going to face in online play-chips poker. He has some interesting methods and strategies that are tailored to this particular game. However, he is not a skilled cash game player and in fact hasn’t played for money in many years. I play both live cash games and tournaments.

We have both agreed that the ring games are a version of poker but not comparable to live cash games in any significant way. The level of play and caliber of players he has faced (and I have watched) up to the 5K/10K rings has been poor. Yes, there are some good players here and there but mostly the games are about as skillful as the low money tables in any casino on a weekend night - as in not very.

Today we have moved up to the 10K/20K ring and we’ll see how that is. Again, there have been some good players at each level but in general the overall skill levels have been poor compared to any actual cash games you may see. Maybe in the nosebleed rings the games are good but we haven’t seen those yet. All I can tell you is what we’ve experienced up to now and its been a very easy ride from 250K to 11+ million in a little over a month. The vast majority of those 11 million chips are from hands that just would never happen in live cash games of over 1/2 stakes.

Enjoy the games for what they are. If you want to find out how the games compare, go find a low buy-in event or game and sit down and play for a bit. That is the only way you are going to truly understand. Even then though, the variations in skill levels from table to table and room to room and night to night in most venues is enormous. Only in a very small group of settings are you going to find consistently high-level poker being played. Find the players here you respect and enjoy and sit down at a table with them and play.

Speaking of which - is there a way to run private games here so players can invite only the other players they want? If that function doesn’t exist, it would be a nice one to add.

you can’t control which cards they come… So that’s why it’s called bet and check. If it was mortal kombat you would just press the button when you want to win. But it’s not as fun, which is why we play poker.

There isn’t, though it’s a topic frequently discussed. If we decide to go forward, it’ll be a bit, but it’s on the radar!

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Thanks fizzymint. I will perhaps look into creating a league here. I am part of the WPT refugee flood that came when they decided to shut their free site down. There are at least 20 of us from that same group who used to play together regularly and maybe it would be worthwhile to establish something to keep that community together?

Always good to hear back from you and glad that RP is looking into so many of these ideas.

1 side question: does anyone know a comparing of the ultimate replay stakes to real money stakes?
500K/1M blind ring games, 5M sng and 5M mtt

of course all answers to my main question are still very welcome.

Claiming that the player pool even at the 500k/1m table (i.e. top 20) is capable of turning a profit at 1000NL is quite a stretch. Put GTO concepts aside, even ABC poker wins somewhere in the single-digit BBs/100 at the 100k/200k table. That, as far as I am concerned, is an utter disgrace for what is supposedly an “elite” group of players.

I make no claims about my ability in cash games, but when you face top 10 opponents with a 3betting range of {QQ+} heads up, it does make you wonder how horrible the general population must have been for them to accumulate so many chips.

the answer is 52 (maybe)

There are 52 cards in a deck and, that’s the closest ANY play money site ever gets to real money.