Card Dead

Any tips for how to play when you are Card Dead (meaning you dealt any good cards) but when you do pickup a hand the board totally misses?

On a passsive table where everyone one calls or an aggressive table where chips are flying furiously.

Thank you in advance :smiley:

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Tournament or cash game? If the former, what stage?

Sadly I am king of card-dead

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In my opinion you gotta be willing to bluff in these situations. Say for example the blinds are 50/100 and your dealt pocket 6’s or AK suited or unsuited for that matter you gotta be willing to bluff and bet anywhere from 250 to 325 preflop. If you connected with three of a kind , a pair , straight, or flush draw on the flop you have to further bluff the turn 450 to 800 chips in my opinion.

If you go all the way to the river and you still think your good with the best hand I say bet 1,000 to 2,500k chips in my opinion. You could be betting for value at this point with two pair or better.

-Marc

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[quote=“1Warlock, post:2, topic:7844”]
Sadly I am king of card-dead
[/quote] hahaha so I’ve come to the right place :wink:

Tournament :smiley:

In the early stages I believe being card dead is ok because there are no antes and I’ll have time to wait for a good hand or try to steal some here and there when it’s folded to me but once the blinds get bigger and antes kick in I seem to get frustrated or better said tilty, I usually shove in good spots but have difficulty getting back to normal and turn into a shoving maniac instead of having patience to wait a few more rounds to see if cards get better. When I’m having an off day even the good cards miss the flop I’ll have AK and there’s a Q, I can’t afford to float because I’m getting shallow and the bets slowly drain my stack.

Another issue I have:
I think I shove or get into raising wars when there is no need (the opposite of paralisis) and can’t seem to stop. I look down at QQ and wind up in a raising war preflop, my opponent shows A8o after we are all in and what do you know an Ace hits the flop, I’m ok with this because I understand it’s poker, now I’m less than 10 big blinds and decide to shove A9s I win the coin flip and maybe another after that, I’m almost back to a normal stack but now I’m shove addicted to any face card I see lol… hahaha looks like I went off the rails with this reply but back to the previous how do or would you combat it :slight_smile:

Believe it or not this post helped… I think I need to figure out a way to just turn off the tilt switch :smiley:

@Marc978 appreciate the advice, I’ll look for spots to bluff/semi-bluff :wink:

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I get a tilt switch stuck on too some games. I’m thinking I lose access to the tilt switch when I’m tired…

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Someone keeps hiding it under my chair (difficult to reach :))

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I finally found it and today came in 2nd place (880,000 win :)), wish it was real money :joy:

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Awesome!!! Christmas came early lol

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Yes indeed my friend!

Hope you and your loved ones have an absolutely amazing Merry Christmas & Happy New Year!:fireworks: along with all the other amazing people on this forum!!!

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Thank you Brother same to you and yours.
Hope to see you Sunday night :wink:

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OK, here is a secret that I’m only telling you so please keep it private ok?

There is no justice in poker tournaments. There is no fairness in poker tournaments. You cannot win a poker tournament without running well at some point.

Actually, I need to credit Doug Polk for these comments but he’s 100% correct. Tournaments are high variance events and the shorter the format, the higher the variance. Most of the MTT’s here are extremely short format. That being said, there are things you can do to increase your chances of going deep, even if at a table with loose passives and loose aggressives at the start.

  1. Tighten up and then tighten up some more at the early stages. This is true for any tournament but especially with the player types you are describing. Do not try to beat these players at their own game. That means not wasting a single chip you don’t have to. Do not open-limp or limp-behind K9s, ever (hint hint). Do not over defend your blinds. Let players damage each other while you keep your powder dry. As you said, before blinds increase and antes are added, there is not nearly as much incentive to put yourself at risk for these pots.

  2. Be patient - lets face it, playing poker at a table of loose passives is about the most boring, frustrating and annoying way to pass time known to man. Well, sadly that’s just the way it goes sometimes. Do not get tempted to play hands just because you’re bored.

  3. Practice pot control - at the early stages try to keep pots manageable. This is harder with tons of players in every pot but you still can do it. Pay attention to stack sizes and decide before you enter a pot how far you are willing to go with the hand in the best and worse case scenarios. If pots are bloated pre-flop because so many players entered, recognize what the bet sizes will look like on the flop and beyond. You are quickly playing for stacks in these bloated pots so make your decisions beforehand.

Not rocket science and won’t make you win tournaments but should help. Being card dead early is better than being card dead late. I will disagree with Marc about bluffing at these stages and against these player types though. Bluffing calling stations is a recipe for disaster. Bluffing a gaggle of them is suicidal for your tournament life. Save your bluffs and semi-bluffs for later stages against players who know where the fold button is located. Save this type of play for blind-stealing and re-stealing. Do not waste your chips doing it early unless you have a really really good spot and even then be careful.

GL and congrats on the 2nd place earlier. Card-dead just sucks and sometimes you will bust out of a tournament without having a decent hand to play or many good spots to try and steal. It happens. The biggest mistake you can make is forcing the issue before you need to. So play tight, play smart and survive. That’s your whole strategy for the early stages.

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very well said my friend.

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I had to LOL !!! even before I started to read it .

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even I understood this LOL.

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Beautiful stated, Warlock1, and answers a question I’ve asked myself, whether or not I should be playing the hand more often while the blinds are low. Now I have this good advice and will go forth better armed.
Jan

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You are the man!
Extremely detailed and very valuable!

I decide to give it a go and what better place than the 1.5K rebuy event here on replay. Why this game because everyone is shove happy :joy:

Thinking the hand through and deciding how far I’m willing to go based off of stack sizes post flop sure made a difference instead of mindlessly shoving preflop all in was undoubtedly successful :slight_smile:

Waiting for the deeper stages to work in bluffs when antes and blinds are high (with rebuys being over) sure made a difference (meaning the bets were more believable), I think for fear of others possibly getting knocked out closer to the bubble and not making the money :moneybag:

Using these tonight I’m shocked at how easy it was to get to the final table and woohooo cashed for another 2nd place today :smiley:

I don’t know if it was because of the advice or the less experienced players in any event it worked and I’m going to try it again at higher stakes, probably tomorrow.

Astoundingly Amazing, again thank you very much sir! @1Warlock thank you for the gift of knowledge.

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P.S. the LAPC is coming to town starting Jan 9th I’ll be trying this strategy for the mega super satellites, starting at the lowest level :wink:

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stop buttering him up LOL !!!

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Hahahaha

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great post.

only a little thing i would like to add: which is when you play super turbo tournaments.
if this is the case i would still use the same theory, but i would widen my range depending on the speed of the tourney.

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