4B in 2 months?

4 billions in 2 months…

Is it possible?

I don’t know, but i did it.
(you can check the stats)

So i’d like to find new challengers, (especially and the top 10 of the past).

I have to reach 30B by next 2 months

Come on :smiley:

I very much doubt you will unless BingoGirl returns. Then again she might completely bust you.

Good Luck.

Nice job. 30b seems tough because that would be a large % of the chips in circulation (a lot of inactive players are holding billions), but it seems like you can do it eventually at your winrate. I haven’t been active in a long time (and only hold a paltry 460M), but it would be fun to play against someone who can crush the site so easily, since the others who did it have mostly gone. Hope to see you at the tables.

See you at tables Joe :wink:

Did somebody go busto? :face_vomiting:

@DogsOfWar The member may have deactivated his account, or if they actually did go busto, decided to just spew it all off cause why not. When you reach amounts like 4B, you’ve in essence kinda like conquered the site’s player pool, hence I’ve seen a few members simply deactivate their account, stop playing, or play real money poker after they’ve reached such stakes because it can get boring.

Plus also, there’s not too many games that run at stakes required to make it worth it to increase bank balance. Even at my bank balance of 700M (top 100), it’s hard to find games around 100K/200K+ without having to wait a long time for someone to join your game.

I’ve just watched a few of El-Jogador’s hands. Whenever I look at very highly-ranked players’ games, the first thing I always notice is that they very often win games with exceptionally weak hands. El Jogador’s biggest win (660 million) was won with a pair of (pocket) aces. Obviously that concept isn’t new to me - it’s called bluffing and/or calling other players’ bluffs. But the following game caught my eye in particular.

Here El-Jogador won an 18 million pot with a pair of eights. Actually they both had a pair of eights, but Al-Jog won due to the kicker. 18 million is only 0.3% of his balance, mind. But it’s the equivalent of me winning 1,000 chips, which I’d be happy with.

I am the typical entry-level “nit” player - so I would fold a pair of eights. But I would be especially inclined to do so in this game, because it’s easy to foresee that my opponent may have a four and therefore a straight. On the other hand. the likelihood of him having a four - the precise card necessary for the nut hand - is low. Nevertheless, I would have folded after the turn in that game, if I were in El Jogador’s position.

What’s amazing about this is that I usually associate trying to win a game with a pair, when it’s simple to deduce that an opponent may have a vastly superior hand, with exceptionally low skill players. You see this in the low stakes ring games all the time - players who’ve been using the site for five years and who have only 49 chips to their name doing the same thing every day - trying to win games by making big bets with their crappy hands, and losing to a good hand such as a straight or a flush that was very easy to predict.

Someone please analyze this situation and situations like this. Because it seems to me that a very weak hand is sufficient to win a high-stakes game, just as it is to win a game against very low-skill players. I just don’t get it.

Hand analysis can only tell you so much about this situation. The more important factor in this situation is El’s read on scrapdoctor2. Rather than thinking of it in terms of El winning with a weak hand, think of it in terms of him winning by exploiting a weakness in an opponent. Few Replay players engage in any kind of second-level thinking. Know your opponent – this is what El obviously gets (though I have never watched him play) that most players do not.

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The absolute hand strength (a pair of 8s) or starting hands (K8o) are only small parts of the context of a particular hand. The hand you posted is quite straightforward from el-jogador’s perspective.

5-handed, he opens K8o from UTG. The hand itself is a bit weak and does not flop well (can’t make two card straights or flushes), but it has top pair value. He can get away with playing a wider range because everyone else here is too passive, and he can use aggression to win pots. He flops top pair, and bets, as he should. His opponent also has top pair of 8s and calls. Nice and easy for both.

On the turn, the ace comes, which is good for el-jogador’s range (as the UTG raiser his range should be stronger than the BB’s flatting range), but Replay dynamics are a bit weird and people call too much with Ax hands. So, perhaps scrapdoctor is trying to rep the ace, or more likely it is a blocker bet to prevent himself from having to call a big bet. And maybe it worked. From el-jogador’s perspective, it is an easy call. He has top pair, the bet isn’t huge, his hand isn’t strong enough to raise, and unless scrapdoctor has an ace then the turn didn’t change much.

The river is pretty much a brick. Yes, sometimes people can have 64/42/44/A4, but there should not be a lot of that relative to the number of 8x/pocket pairs/5x/diamond draws. Can’t always be worried about the monster under the bed. The action on the turn also didn’t make it look like anyone either had a made straight or was trying to get folds with a draw.

The river bet is tiny, which seems like another blocker bet. El-jogador could raise because the bet looks so weak, but people on Replay bet funky sizes sometimes when they are weak or when they are very strong. His hand is not strong enough to raise confidently, so it is fine to just call and win the pot. Folding should never be a thought with that bet size. Apart from scrapdoctor’s turn lead, this hand is completely unremarkable.

I think the amount of chips on the table is impacting how you look at this hand. But the poker itself doesn’t change from 1/2 chip to 500,000/1,000,000 to real money $10/20 or 200NL. Edit: well, the poker itself does change because the player pools change (meaning the skill level of the game changes), but the correct play in the same exact situation at the same exact table against the same exact opponent should not be affected by the stakes.

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To address another part of your question: is it easier to win a high stakes game with a weak hand versus a low stakes game, the answer, as always in poker, is ‘it depends’.

But generally speaking the answer is actually yes! it is often easier to win with worse starting hands against better players. The reason being, as you become more familiar with the game and how to play after the flop, you are able to add more hands to the range of starting hands that you would play. At a certain point, you want to have a balanced range from which you can represent a strong hand on almost any starting board. That means that against good players, they can have much weaker starting hands like 56s or 22 or J9o, while worse players would play these hands poorly and be easier to beat. Expanding on that, by playing a wider range, better players also need to have some bluffs in their game (not necessarily on Replay but that’s another story…), which means that you can potentially call their bets with a weaker hand. Bad players usually telegraph their strength, so you can fold your weaker hands, while good players force you to make tough decisions and sometimes raise/call with weaker hands. Additionally, because strong players are more likely to raise and re-raise before the flop, there are likely to be fewer players seeing the flop at higher stakes. Weaker players like to limp and call too much. Fewer players on the flop means a weaker absolute hand strength is needed to win the average pot. With 5 people seeing each flop, top pair is pretty dicey, but if you only get 1 caller, you may be more willing to go with it.

Newer poker players should play relatively tight ranges and play them aggressively. If you only play AA/KK/QQ/AK you will be doing a lot of folding, but your pairs will almost always be top pairs, you boats will almost always be top boats, your straights will almost always be nut straights, and your flushes will almost always be nut flushes. At the lower stakes where you can raise 8x preflop and get multiple callers, you need to punish your opponents for making those bad calls by being extremely strong. It is a waste of chips to try to bluff someone who doesn’t know how to fold, so drawing hands like 76s or JTs are a lot worse. On the other hand, if you can see cheap flops with them and get paid off when you do hit, that can work too. If I were to sit at the 2/4 chip tables right now, I would be waiting for monster hands to get paid off, while at a short handed 500k/1m table I would be open-raising like 25% of starting hands on average and trying to win pots a variety of different ways.

@Scrover At the time the J-Vendetta’s account did not exists for days after many, many searches. It could not be found on RP = Deactivated OR strange RP glitch which is possible tho highly unlikely.

I’m well aware of the ABC’s of why some players deactivate accounts. There are many others reasons, you either haven’t thought of, or didnt bother to mention. Yes I have seen many deactivated accounts & can speculate or hypothesis the same as any other half intelligent RP player can.

J-Vendetta has made it very clear that they intend to win 30B in 2 months which means the objective is to destroy all the best poker players on RP (Top 20 at least) in an extremely short time. As a high/elite stakes player you should have some understanding of how incredibly improbable that objective is.

High nose-bleed stakes poker has always been very limited LIVE casino, online cash, or RP ring. RP is extremely limited for all games if your particularly selective. There are very, very few Omaha games available never-mind MED or HIGH stakes or even SnG low stakes NL hold’em. Preaching to the choir with old news - if you play on PR it doesnt take long to understand that games are very limited. Games are limited but still available occasionally if that floats your goat once in a blue moon. Everyone is in the same boat and yes games are limited and obviously opponents too.

If you want to blow all you chips then look for J-Vendetta. This player will gladly take your chips & has made it extremely clear they are looking for blood n chips.