Heads up all in protocols

We have a league where we play live and deal ourselves when it’s our urn. In this case the dealer called the single all-in and the single turned his cards over. He asked the dealer to turn his face up and the dealer declined, claiming the need to show his cards only if he won the pot. Spirits flew and many opinions were heard.

I always took comfort that in hold’em all contingencies were covered by rules, since the vagaries of the game are so tough, but is this situation a matter of rule, or house custom, or table agreement …and shouldn’t it be covered by an elegant and exact regulation? I appreciate your thoughts.

House rules may vary, of course, but when everyone still in the hand has put in the most chips on the pot as can be covered, the customary practice is to flip them up.

Yeah, its customary to flip cards face up if allin and called, but house rules trump any other rule.

There are no official rules that cover all poker everywhere. It’s a good idea to find a rule set and get all players to agree to play by them BEFORE you start playing. This can avoid gunfights and the like.

Here’s a good set to use…

https://www.cardplayer.com/rules-of-poker/tournaments

By the way, one of the rules listed there is…

“All hands are turned face up whenever a player is all in and betting action is complete.”

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In a tournament setting to prevent collusion every all in has to be shown down whether you win or not. In cash games, if you’re last to act, you can reserve your right to show. Meaning you do not have to turn your cards you are showing a winner. Example, you bet 200 and you’re opponent shoves all it and you call, it is on you’re opponent to show first he can either show or fold. If he shows you can show the winner or muck the loser. If he folds, you win and you do not have to show the winner.

These are TDA rules and apply to tournament poker, not cash games.